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10 comments on “Striped Bass Assessment 2017 – A Comparative Analysis”
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This is worth a read. Rich Troxler has a way of taking all of the data, confusing as it is, and connecting some dots to make sense of it all. Thanks RT for this. I can’t imagine when you have time to go fishing.
Great info Trox! Thanks for spending the time to compile and present the information to the general public. At the meetings (few attend) the data is flashed over so quickly and goes right over most of the crowds head. What will 2019/20 look like? It’s going to be interesting and we all are rooting for the 2011 year class!!!
Ist thank you Zeno for posting this. Rich this is one of the best break downs I’ve seen since Bob Pond of Atom Lures and Stripers Unlimited used to do when he stood on his podium constantly preaching about the stripers and their health. I encourage all that take the time to listen to this and do or have done their own research on this to pass this on to their poleticians and clubs that speak up about the stripers health and numbers. This info is real. No matter how good some local fishing has ben there are so many areas that are having poorer and poorer fishing each season that the overal picture is starting to be worry-some. From the 1960s to today I’ve seen the stripers go up and down in abundance . We all play a part in it. Our efforts to preserve them are selfish in essance but important in results for the fish and the future of the striped bass and our families to enjoy them. To catch them is enjoyable ,to release them healthy is more so as the relationship and bond to the fish we develop is longer lasting and enjoyable. The Striped Bass need our help again. No matter recreational ,commercial or spectator these fish are important to us let alone to the overall enviornmet to which they are vital.
Thanks Rich, you put all that info into layman terms. Amazing that you can draw conclusions and questions from the data and they do nothing but tell us it’s OK. Anyone who fishes knows it’s not!
Excellent video and information. Thanks to SJ for putting this in your blog. I think it would be good to have SJ add a regular spot or contributor in its magazine that focuses on fishery conservation and management.
Thank you all for your kind words and I hope it gives everybody who views it a better perspective on the status of the stocks. Here’s a good analogy I’ve used before on how the ASMFC has managed the stocks over the last decade and a half. this is how the ASMFC manages the resource.
Let’s say you’re on an airplane cruising at 36,000 feet. This represents the stocks in the year 2K. The airplane starts nosing down and you get a little queasy feeling in your stomach, but you figure it’s just an air pocket. But then you start hearing noises coming out of the engine and the angle down steepens. So you ask the stewardess if somethings wrong and she says she’s sure everything is ok and there’s nothing to worry about.
Right after that the engines shut down and plane starts diving, you’re now at 18,000 feet and people start screaming and wanting to know what’s happening. The captain comes on the speaker and says “Don’t worry folks, the manual says that we are not in danger of crashing until we’re under 12,000 feet (according to our biological reference points) and that the engines will probably restart by themselves by then, so no need to worry.
So as the plane nears 12,000 feet, the captain comes on the PA again and says, “Good news, I found an addendum in the manual (that revises the biological reference points) that says we’re not in danger of crashing until we fall below 8,000 feet, so we’re still good.”
That about sums up the ASMFC approach to stock management. Thank you to all who watched the video. I know it was pretty long 😉
It is a slippery slope to report judgement solely based on indices and/or means. While the ambiguities in all of this reporting is alarming, I’m confident that the new upcoming interactive fishing platforms (fishbrain, trufishing, etc.), will force organizations like ASMFC and others, to use better (real) data collection. It will take time – no doubt- but certainly lots of big data is coming in that can help these organizations collect verifiable data.
This is worth a read. Rich Troxler has a way of taking all of the data, confusing as it is, and connecting some dots to make sense of it all. Thanks RT for this. I can’t imagine when you have time to go fishing.
↓Great info Trox! Thanks for spending the time to compile and present the information to the general public. At the meetings (few attend) the data is flashed over so quickly and goes right over most of the crowds head. What will 2019/20 look like? It’s going to be interesting and we all are rooting for the 2011 year class!!!
↓Ist thank you Zeno for posting this. Rich this is one of the best break downs I’ve seen since Bob Pond of Atom Lures and Stripers Unlimited used to do when he stood on his podium constantly preaching about the stripers and their health. I encourage all that take the time to listen to this and do or have done their own research on this to pass this on to their poleticians and clubs that speak up about the stripers health and numbers. This info is real. No matter how good some local fishing has ben there are so many areas that are having poorer and poorer fishing each season that the overal picture is starting to be worry-some. From the 1960s to today I’ve seen the stripers go up and down in abundance . We all play a part in it. Our efforts to preserve them are selfish in essance but important in results for the fish and the future of the striped bass and our families to enjoy them. To catch them is enjoyable ,to release them healthy is more so as the relationship and bond to the fish we develop is longer lasting and enjoyable. The Striped Bass need our help again. No matter recreational ,commercial or spectator these fish are important to us let alone to the overall enviornmet to which they are vital.
↓Thanks Rich, you put all that info into layman terms. Amazing that you can draw conclusions and questions from the data and they do nothing but tell us it’s OK. Anyone who fishes knows it’s not!
↓Incredible video. THANK YOU
↓Thank you Rich for translating and breaking down the data. I’ll be viewing this video a few times for sure.
↓Thank you Rich. Yes, it was long and tedious but that is often the case with incredibly serious issues that must be considered. Thank you again.
↓Excellent video and information. Thanks to SJ for putting this in your blog. I think it would be good to have SJ add a regular spot or contributor in its magazine that focuses on fishery conservation and management.
↓Thank you all for your kind words and I hope it gives everybody who views it a better perspective on the status of the stocks. Here’s a good analogy I’ve used before on how the ASMFC has managed the stocks over the last decade and a half. this is how the ASMFC manages the resource.
Let’s say you’re on an airplane cruising at 36,000 feet. This represents the stocks in the year 2K. The airplane starts nosing down and you get a little queasy feeling in your stomach, but you figure it’s just an air pocket. But then you start hearing noises coming out of the engine and the angle down steepens. So you ask the stewardess if somethings wrong and she says she’s sure everything is ok and there’s nothing to worry about.
Right after that the engines shut down and plane starts diving, you’re now at 18,000 feet and people start screaming and wanting to know what’s happening. The captain comes on the speaker and says “Don’t worry folks, the manual says that we are not in danger of crashing until we’re under 12,000 feet (according to our biological reference points) and that the engines will probably restart by themselves by then, so no need to worry.
So as the plane nears 12,000 feet, the captain comes on the PA again and says, “Good news, I found an addendum in the manual (that revises the biological reference points) that says we’re not in danger of crashing until we fall below 8,000 feet, so we’re still good.”
That about sums up the ASMFC approach to stock management. Thank you to all who watched the video. I know it was pretty long 😉
↓It is a slippery slope to report judgement solely based on indices and/or means. While the ambiguities in all of this reporting is alarming, I’m confident that the new upcoming interactive fishing platforms (fishbrain, trufishing, etc.), will force organizations like ASMFC and others, to use better (real) data collection. It will take time – no doubt- but certainly lots of big data is coming in that can help these organizations collect verifiable data.
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